My friend sent me a link just now via instant messenger about 5 min ago and I haven’t fully grasp the overall concept of the pending event that might be coming soon.
The link is HERE
Because the whole forum thread is way too long to put in a single blog post, I will only extract portions that are mentioned by this Anonymous NASA Contractor who had started the thread, he is often call OP by the thread people as the starter of that particular thread.
To believe or not to believe is up to you, I am just the one making it easier for you to digest the whole “event” and possibly warn you of any pending disaster.
Thread title: All I can say is, many of you are close !!!!
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 12:21 PM
I work for a NASA contractor and handle the video conferencing sessions between JSC and other facilities. Everybody always wants to see a link. Well, everything talked about in these vc’s is top secret – so there’s obviously not a link. I love my family and need my job so I’m not gonna tell you much that would endanger those either. I work for Boeing. All I can tell you is there is a LOT of interesting shit happening. The moon is NOT crashing – but it doesn’t need to. There is a reason so many are sending birds up to watch the Sun – and it’s not cause we just would like to know more about the Sun.
We’ll start here and I’ll respond how and when I can.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 1:39 PM
So is everything going to start coming apart at the seems now? And, are you referring to natural disasters, or imminent contact? Quoting: Sickscent
Sorry for the delay – had a meeting.
Natural occurances.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 1:42 PM
How many would you say are ‘in the know’?
How is it you are able to keep it quiet? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 743646
This isn’t about a “2012″ senario. I haven’t heard anybody acknowledge that timeline. It’s easy to keep quiet, most people think NASA is hiding something anyway. In the know- It’s hard to tell because how how many conferences take place between us, ESA, and others. Not every piece of the picture is being discussed at every conference either. Just what affects that agency or department.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 1:44 PM
seriously. why dont you just tell us WTF is going on with the sun already. Is it going to shit on us with a CME?? Are Aliens using it as a vehicle to enter our universe and come thru??? Is it burning out? are we going to freeze to death? WTF OP JUST SAY IT
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 906687
Aliens, per se, have not been involved. The Sun IS involved.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 1:45 PM
invisible threads shall we say connected from the earth to the sun!
Like the kind of invisible threads that show up in digital pictures between earth and other planets?
Those are an artifact of how the data is being converted not threads.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 1:46 PM
Yes OP is all about the Sun and always has been about the Sun.
All the rest id distractions
I think the Sun is at his end , unstable star at the end of his life.
Is it?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 907687
Haven’t heard anyone put it in terms of the Sun being at ‘it’s end’. The Sun is changing in ways we theorize that stars ‘can’ change.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 1:49 PM
Does NASA think the sun is going to become extremely active, more than usual? Are they afraid of damaging CME’s?
Thanks in advance.
Quoting: Hickory
NASA has already acknowledged this. They came out late last year and revised downward what they had previously acknowledged. It isn’t ‘actually’ turning out that way.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 1:49 PM
Does it have to do with Mars?
Quoting: bobnightman
My group has only handled conferences regarding ‘near earth’ projects and interest. I haven’t been privy to any info about Mars. But I haven’t heard anything in the ‘halls’ like gets posted on here all the time – either.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 1:52 PM
i am sure it is about the solar pulse thing that would take out the techno grid.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 887411
The grid is a big concern.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 1:53 PM
I work for a NASA contractor and handle the video conferencing sessions between JSC and other facilities. Everybody always wants to see a link. Well, everything talked about in these vc’s is top secret – so there’s obviously not a link. I love my family and need my job so I’m not gonna tell you much that would endanger those either. I work for Boeing. All I can tell you is there is a LOT of interesting shit happening. The moon is NOT crashing – but it doesn’t need to. There is a reason so many are sending birds up to watch the Sun – and it’s not cause we just would like to know more about the Sun.
We’ll start here and I’ll respond how and when I can.
It’s obviously not about the end of the world in 2012 at least. Otherwise your job would be your last concern.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 907422
Nobody I have been involved with believes ‘officially’ the 2012 timeline.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 1:55 PM
Its not just the sun exhibiting different “behavior” several planets in our solar system now have significant magnetic fields that were practically non-existent before, and I think there are gravitational perturbations being measured that again were previously non-existent.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 889363
Like I said, many of you are very close to being right.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 1:58 PM
something to do with energy coming from the center of the galaxy.
sun will react to it in a paranormal way.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 907660
The Sun is already reacting to ‘forces’ we can’t see.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 2:00 PM
Its not just the sun exhibiting different “behavior” several planets in our solar system now have significant magnetic fields that were practically non-existent before, and I think there are gravitational perturbations being measured that again were previously non-existent.
Like I said, many of you are very close to being right.
super nova? so what happened in the 2012 movie could occur but not on that timeline? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 907745
Haven’t heard it put in terms of a super nova. A lot can happen that would (is) bad which would be far from a super nova.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 2:03 PM
Yes OP is all about the Sun and always has been about the Sun.
All the rest id distractions
I think the Sun is at his end , unstable star at the end of his life.
Is it?
Haven’t heard anyone put it in terms of the Sun being at ‘it’s end’. The Sun is changing in ways we theorize that stars ‘can’ change.
The Sun in turning to a Brown Dwarf !
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 907261
No
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 2:08 PM
seriously. why dont you just tell us WTF is going on with the sun already. Is it going to shit on us with a CME?? Are Aliens using it as a vehicle to enter our universe and come thru??? Is it burning out? are we going to freeze to death? WTF OP JUST SAY IT
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 906687
Look, everybody assumes NASA has all the answers and that there are things they know for sure which aren’t being disclosed. The problem is, most of what is being discussed is NOT set in stone and NASA, nor ESA or the others know for certain either what will happen – in some instances – and even less when.
Thing moving through space can hit each other. When they do, it’s hard to know what will happen because those spin offs can hit other ‘things’ we may not see yet – or – may think we see but aren’t sure of the mass or composition.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 2:12 PM
How many jobs have you got OP?
Why don’t you just quit with this bullshit.
Quoting: BadMoonRising
You’re referring to my post from yesterday. Boeing has many contracts, military and civilian. As a VC tech, I am in on many subjects and our involvement in that vessel is one of them.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 2:14 PM
Its not just the sun exhibiting different “behavior” several planets in our solar system now have significant magnetic fields that were practically non-existent before, and I think there are gravitational perturbations being measured that again were previously non-existent.
Like I said, many of you are very close to being right.
[link to science.nasa.gov]
So, this ‘ribbon’ of magnetism we are heading into, could it be the ‘Wave’ that has been mentioned before. The Wave is supposed to be an area of increased energy that the solar system is supposed to fly through. BUT, what if the actual Wave isn’t increased ‘energy’, but this magnetism, and as our heliosphere and the various gravity fields of our system interact with the ‘ribbon of magnetism’ (NASA), it causes unkown energy exchanges that can be very dynamic.
Am I close OP?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 865798
Like I said, NASA isn’t sure of everything it believes may be happening. Something is happening and many who have the ability to send birds up to look are also trying to figure out just what “is” real.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 2:24 PM
OP is not all that serious about the top secret stuff, they are just making observations, stuff is going on and nothing is certain, its all energy anyway. i am worried aout the eq’s they may not be over,
Quoting: sigh 881494
We have been talking about EQ’s because some of our US facilities are in areas which have the possibility of serious involvement. NASA and others do not yet understand the current trend in EQ’s.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 2:26 PM
Its not just the sun exhibiting different “behavior” several planets in our solar system now have significant magnetic fields that were practically non-existent before, and I think there are gravitational perturbations being measured that again were previously non-existent.
Like I said, many of you are very close to being right.
[link to science.nasa.gov]
So, this ‘ribbon’ of magnetism we are heading into, could it be the ‘Wave’ that has been mentioned before. The Wave is supposed to be an area of increased energy that the solar system is supposed to fly through. BUT, what if the actual Wave isn’t increased ‘energy’, but this magnetism, and as our heliosphere and the various gravity fields of our system interact with the ‘ribbon of magnetism’ (NASA), it causes unkown energy exchanges that can be very dynamic.
Am I close OP?
Like I said, NASA isn’t sure of everything it believes may be happening. Something is happening and many who have the ability to send birds up to look are also trying to figure out just what “is” real.
But, am I close?
And, what do you mean ‘figure out what “is” real? Do you mean what effects could be possible? Or is there something that they have recieved data on, but it doesn’t quite make sense? So they are sending that new satellite up there to get ‘better’ measurements…
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 865798
“real” We have to give a reason which things show up on certain data that gets out on the net.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 2:29 PM
How many jobs have you got OP?
Why don’t you just quit with this bullshit.
You’re referring to my post from yesterday. Boeing has many contracts, military and civilian. As a VC tech, I am in on many subjects and our involvement in that vessel is one of them.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 888341
Maybe if I give you some of this info. We operate conference facilities all over the US and I am specifically involved with the group which handles military and paramilitary traffic. In our conf facilities, we set up the customers with 15″ TPS-6000’s which are managed by Creston PR02 dual bus control systems and C2ENET-2 dual port Enet controllers. Those are the management side. The conference attendees are using Tandenberg 6000 video conferencing codecs.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 2:30 PM
Why are you proposing to tell us all this? If you really have TSC, aren’t you endangering yourself talking about it?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 829955
Not if I don’t state anything as fact that isn’t public knowledge – even if the public doesn’t realize that it’s out there.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 2:37 PM
Why are you proposing to tell us all this? If you really have TSC, aren’t you endangering yourself talking about it?
Not if I don’t state anything as fact that isn’t public knowledge – even if the public doesn’t realize that it’s out there.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 888341
Actually, NASA like most govt agencies, leaks like a noodle strainer. There is VERY LITTLE which is actually an unknown secret… but the info gets put out in such small pieces and from such a wide array of sources – that’s it’s nearly impossible for someone to put all the pieces together and then state it as fact. Like I said, NSAS and others often – especially now – aren’t sure what ‘fact is.
As long as something is in what is termed “the public domain” – while it may be discussed in the realms of a TS subject oveall – doesn’t make that piece of info – on it’s own – secret.
I can’t put the pieces together like I have heard them put together. That would be a violation.
I can say that while I am putting together some provision for my family… I’m not trying to survive an ELE.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 2:40 PM
this?
[link to www.newscientist.com]
Quoting: the Quetzal
This is something very important which we don’t understand.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 2:42 PM
Is whatever happening going to impact the whole globe or only certain locations? Whatever happens weather earthquake, meteor
CME or whatever it is I don’t care, I’m 36 yr old and I have been ready now for whatever happens. I am not afraid to die , but I would like to know because I have children that are not ready and are afraid of what might happen.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 843060
Potentially, the whole globe. But it depends on the time of day as to how badly certain areas might be affected. Don’t worry your children with this stuff and I would discourage them from watching 2012 and other programs on TV these days. Maybe good info, but bad cause there isn’t a darn thing we can do about it… not 2012 timeline, but some of what is being proposed about that timeline.
Have another meeting folks and then I’m outta here for the weekend. Will try to check in later tonight maybe.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 2:44 PM
Is whatever happening going to impact the whole globe or only certain locations? Whatever happens weather earthquake, meteor
CME or whatever it is I don’t care, I’m 36 yr old and I have been ready now for whatever happens. I am not afraid to die , but I would like to know because I have children that are not ready and are afraid of what might happen.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 843060
Potentially, the whole globe. But it depends on the time of day as to how badly certain areas might be affected. Don’t worry your children with this stuff and I would discourage them from watching 2012 and other programs on TV these days. Maybe good info, but bad cause there isn’t a darn thing we can do about it… not 2012 timeline, but some of what is being proposed about that timeline.
Have another meeting folks and then I’m outta here for the weekend. Will try to check in later tonight maybe.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 2:44 PM
I can’t put the pieces together like I have heard them put together. That would be a violation.
I can say that while I am putting together some provision for my family… I’m not trying to survive an ELE.
Can you give us a list of what you are not trying to survive?
Quoting: RexKristos
I am NOT trying to survive a moon crash – that one was funny. Not even an asteroid, becuase to many variables. I am learning how to adjust to a lack of electrons in house wiring for some time.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 2:48 PM
I’ve got a good question.
Is NASA concerned about a near certain event? Or are they more worried because some of these ’secrets’ look like they are going to be exposed and their is nothing they can do about it?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 865798
Some of both but not why you might think. Everyone at NASA has a family somewhere. They’re not a bunch of govt bought robots – they have feelings. They fear what can happen. But they have to pay their bills like all of us. They have to keep money coming into the budget. Many WANT to keep money coming hoping that they can figure out what is fact – and THEN they would LIKE to open up about it….. that’s what I hear in the halls – NOT in official conferences. But – it is a very vicious circle folks.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 2:48 PM
I can’t put the pieces together like I have heard them put together. That would be a violation.
I can say that while I am putting together some provision for my family… I’m not trying to survive an ELE.
Can you give us a list of what you are not trying to survive?
I am NOT trying to survive a moon crash – that one was funny. Not even an asteroid, becuase to many variables. I am learning how to adjust to a lack of electrons in house wiring for some time.
EMP?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 879039
Electro MAgnetic Pulse – that’s a big concern and now I really have to go.
Bye
By Anonymous Coward User ID: 893577 Brazil 3/5/2010 3:06 PM
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 3:11 PM
Why are you proposing to tell us all this? If you really have TSC, aren’t you endangering yourself talking about it?
Not if I don’t state anything as fact that isn’t public knowledge – even if the public doesn’t realize that it’s out there.
Actually, NASA like most govt agencies, leaks like a noodle strainer. There is VERY LITTLE which is actually an unknown secret… but the info gets put out in such small pieces and from such a wide array of sources – that’s it’s nearly impossible for someone to put all the pieces together and then state it as fact. Like I said, NSAS and others often – especially now – aren’t sure what ‘fact is.
As long as something is in what is termed “the public domain” – while it may be discussed in the realms of a TS subject oveall – doesn’t make that piece of info – on it’s own – secret.
I can’t put the pieces together like I have heard them put together. That would be a violation.
I can say that while I am putting together some provision for my family… I’m not trying to survive an ELE.
Could you point out a specific breadcrumb?
We’re delayed until 1530.
This: [link to science.nasa.gov]
Holy crap, 11 year cycle = end of 2012, beginning of 2013
Dude, you’re saying that this large solar maximum is going to have an unknown interaction with recent gamma rays in our system.
That is it. I win a prize.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8398
Forget the dates ! The event is what is important. The question was could I point to something, assumingly being discussed, which was already in the public.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 3:16 PM
I know what the OP is talking about, it has nothing to do with an “event” from the sun as we know it, like a flare or pulse or anything like that. It has to do with a “timeline”
In short, part of what I know is this, certain features that our sun has displayed is at question. During the monitoring of our sun features in a specific way has manifested in observable events that have taken place many years ago and events that have yet to be.
The process of observing our sun in this specialized way can also be used to monitor other celestial events that have already occurred and those that have yet to occur.
Our sun is fine, however it is the culmination of the results from these observations that are at question.
The question is not one of what but of when.
N4
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 806272
And i wouldn’t put that much time into ‘when’
Being called back for 1430
bye
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 3:41 PM
Q. Will we wake up one day and the Ele systems will be smoking, toast?
Q. Will it happen over time, system down here and there over days, weeks?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 879039
Gotta love it – our tax dollars at work – a meeting to set up a meeting.
Again, this is out there. Days. There is a ‘domino’ effect because of how our electrical grid is designed. It has safeguards which actually take it down – in segments – automatically in order to keep from frying things… but the components of what those automatic systems are supposed to protect are not protected from EMP and/or huge static loads to ground.
I’m not an EE so not sure what that means. So when the system trys to protect itself – it can cascade – quickly. But if certain parts of the system get damaged – again this is out there – then it can take years to replace them. Problem is, the companies who make this stuff don’t have enough raw materials on hand – right now – to make them all. Some of them don’t even have back up power sources…. they are ‘commerical’ suppliers ! Think about it. Really think about it.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 3:52 PM
OP,
Thanks for this thread. Can you be a bit more specific about the types of preparations that you are making for your family? How long are you planning food and water? What types of backup power sources are you considering? Is radiation in any form of concern?
Thanks!
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 844228
you’re welcome. I’ve actually said about as much as I can. For us, we are fortunate to have a small place between Houston and Dallas with a few acres. We have a well – hand well and wind mill. I have tools and can work with my hands. I have a few solar panels just to charge some batteries for small conveniences like small led lights at night. Forget much more than that.
We have seeds for only a few basic veggies. Think about living in the late 1800’s for a while and you’ll be on my line of thinking. Is it enough or will it work – I don’t know. How soon may it be needed? I don’t know and I think anybody who says they do know is pulling our legs – UNTIL about 30-40 hours before it happens.
Will an announcement be made? I don’t know but I don’t think so – too many variables and too much communication to be done with critical agencies to at least TRY to save some stuff. How fast am I working on this? I have been for a year and am nearly finished with what I have ‘planned’ to try to get together.
Hope this has been helpful.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 3:54 PM
Q. Will we wake up one day and the Ele systems will be smoking, toast?
Q. Will it happen over time, system down here and there
over days, weeks?
Gotta love it – our tax dollars at work – a meeting to set up a meeting.
Again, this is out there. Days. There is a ‘domino’ effect because of how our electrical grid is designed. It has safeguards which actually take it down – in segments – automatically in order to keep from frying things… but the components of what those automatic systems are supposed to protect are not protected from EMP and/or huge static loads to ground. I’m not an EE so not sure what that means. So when the system trys to protect itself – it can cascade – quickly. But if certain parts of the system get damaged – again this is out there – then it can take years to replace them. Problem is, the companies who make this stuff don’t have enough raw materials on hand – right now – to make them all. Some of them don’t even have back up power sources…. they are ‘commerical’ suppliers ! Think about it. Really think about it.
Could be this has something to do with the obsession with oil supplies from the middle east and who will have long term power source the most.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8398
I haven’t heard anything like this but NASA is only involved with data acquisition and orbiting infrastructure.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 3:59 PM
OP as I understand it two things are occurring. First, something external is affecting our solar system, potentially starting up the sun’s solar capacitor and secondly the sun is entering a solar cycle maximum, part of its natural cycle. These two factors could cause EMP type effects, especially when you consider that the earth’s magnetosphere has been exhibiting “holes” or breaches in the shield.
A lot of this has been summarized by several scientists and researchers, some from the University of Colorado. That is publicly available information, however the first factor of an external influence affecting our solar system is not. But when you look at circumstantial evidence, like a ban on information on asteroids and objects entering earth’s atmosphere and .gov agencies re-locating offices to higher elevations (CIA moving branches to Denver Colorado) one can get an overall “picture”.
Have you seen any mitigation efforts by .gov agencies regarding older satellites that may be affecting by large solar radiation storms?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 889363
There IS public speculation out there about something which has a timeline and affects our solar system. But – NASA has not confirmed that they see it. Did I say that right ??? They also don’t really know how it ‘could’ affect our system cause things ‘could’ happen which would change ‘its’ timeline – if it exists.
Old birds aren’t saveable. Even shutting them down won’t help.
The ban on near earth objects caught many by surprise… many.
I don’t know anything about the CIA… and I don’t want to either.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 4:01 PM
Look, everybody assumes NASA has all the answers and that there are things they know for sure which aren’t being disclosed. The problem is, most of what is being discussed is NOT set in stone and NASA, nor ESA or the others know for certain either what will happen – in some instances – and even less when.
Thing moving through space can hit each other. When they do, it’s hard to know what will happen because those spin offs can hit other ‘things’ we may not see yet – or – may think we see but aren’t sure of the mass or composition.
Are you referring to P/2010 A2 ????
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 514250
Like i said.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 4:07 PM
Is the anomaly affecting the space station?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 902591
This or maybe something like it: [link to www.canberratimes.com.au]
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 4:08 PM
Will admit I’ve not read all pages, but the first word that popped into my wee brain was GRBs ~
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 455519
Gamma Ray Bursts. EMP
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 4:10 PM
and THEN they would LIKE to open up about it-quote.
hey come on?
what have you been smoking?
Quoting: mr…bojangles
There isn’t as much conspiracy at NASA – about this stuff anyway – as everyone seems to want. There IS a total shit load of it when it comes to getting money funding.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 4:14 PM
So OP it’s kinda like a cue ball break. You never know where the balls are gonna go as they all hit each other and the variables are too infinite. Correct?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 903741
IF – the balls turn out to be ones we aren’t tracking. Nuf said about that one.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 4:19 PM
I wish that is all you would say.
“I work for ______ and you are all screwed.” How many times has this been posted?
Quoting: Setheory 869850
I work for Boeing. I don’t know yet if we are all screwed and NASA doesn’t either. Guess I’ve brought all I can bring to you on this one. There is a LOT on here lately about the Sun. I just wanted to help sift through some of the other BS by saying – rightly so!
I can say this, you’d be amazed how many people at NASA know about GLP and pop over here from time to time. I’ve been watching this site for only a few weeks cause a friend told me about it one day.
Will be seeing you on here.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 4:23 PM
Look, everybody assumes NASA has all the answers and that there are things they know for sure which aren’t being disclosed. The problem is, most of what is being discussed is NOT set in stone and NASA, nor ESA or the others know for certain either what will happen – in some instances – and even less when.
Thing moving through space can hit each other. When they do, it’s hard to know what will happen because those spin offs can hit other ‘things’ we may not see yet – or – may think we see but aren’t sure of the mass or composition.
Are you referring to P/2010 A2 ????
Like i said.
Here she is:
[link to apod.nasa.gov]
How could that interact with a salar flare event?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8398
Think of the distance this photo comes from. All that stuff behind the artifact isn’t necessarily ‘dust’
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 4:35 PM
I wish that is all you would say.
“I work for ______ and you are all screwed.” How many times has this been posted?
I work for Boeing. I don’t know yet if we are all screwed and NASA doesn’t either. Guess I’ve brought all I can bring to you on this one. There is a LOT on here lately about the Sun. I just wanted to help sift through some of the other BS by saying – rightly so!
I can say this, you’d be amazed how many people at NASA know about GLP and pop over here from time to time. I’ve been watching this site for only a few weeks cause a friend told me about it one day.
Will be seeing you on here.
Bay area or tower II?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 797117
I’ll say on Gemini is our department head.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 4:36 PM
So OP it’s kinda like a cue ball break. You never know where the balls are gonna go as they all hit each other and the variables are too infinite. Correct?
IF – the balls turn out to be ones we aren’t tracking. Nuf said about that one.
This isn’t about something hitting earth, it’s about the potential of something hitting the sun and what affect that might have on the GRB that will already be high from the solar maximum?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8398
Right – it’s not about something hitting the Earth.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 4:37 PM
Have another meeting folks and then I’m outta here for the weekend. Will try to check in later tonight maybe.
why ur still here ??? what about your weekend ?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 907843
The meeting was blocked out till 1600 – that’s when I get off. Which is in just about 20 mins.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 4:39 PM
I can’t put the pieces together like I have heard them put together. That would be a violation.
I can say that while I am putting together some provision for my family… I’m not trying to survive an ELE.
Can you give us a list of what you are not trying to survive?
I am NOT trying to survive a moon crash – that one was funny. Not even an asteroid, becuase to many variables. I am learning how to adjust to a lack of electrons in house wiring for some time.
EMP?
Electro MAgnetic Pulse – that’s a big concern and now I really have to go.
Bye
So there are two things that I am aware of.. please comment on them: The first is flucuations in the earths magnetic field the second is the unexplained low level of sunspots. Do either of these have something to do with what you have heard?
Also, what exactly are you doing to deal with a lack of electrons in house wiring? Just curious.
BTW I am former Boeing and now a govt executive, FWIW.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 887057
The low level of sunspots aren’t low anymore. I (we) are learning how NOT to rely on electricity.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 4:40 PM
How many jobs have you got OP?
Why don’t you just quit with this bullshit.
You’re referring to my post from yesterday. Boeing has many contracts, military and civilian. As a VC tech, I am in on many subjects and our involvement in that vessel is one of them.
Maybe if I give you some of this info. We operate conference facilities all over the US and I am specifically involved with the group which handles military and paramilitary traffic. In our conf facilities, we set up the customers with 15″ TPS-6000’s which are managed by Creston PR02 dual bus control systems and C2ENET-2 dual port Enet controllers. Those are the management side. The conference attendees are using Tandenberg 6000 video conferencing codecs.
Dude, you probably shouldn’t be disclosing that.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 737050
It’s out there.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 4:49 PM
OP, you said that you wouldn’t put much time onto this, meaning that whatever this is about, it is not supposed to take a long time to happen. But what are we talking about here? Months? A few years?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 907852
Look – I don’t know. Not years. Again, this is out there – look at how long the Sun was quiet passed when everyone thought it would be quiet. Like I said, NASA doesn’t always know what it thinks it knows. Look at the ‘very public’ amount of data being made available by SOHO and other systems which are still up every day on the net.
That stuff would not be available if NASA really didn’t want the public to have ‘the ability to know’ what is occuring. It’s obvious that something is occuring – and more frequently. That’s public info – not necessarily knowledge – but it’s info that is there for the seeing and reading.
All I can say.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/5/2010 4:53 PM
Q. Will we wake up one day and the Ele systems will be smoking, toast?
Q. Will it happen over time, system down here and there
over days, weeks?
Gotta love it – our tax dollars at work – a meeting to set up a meeting.
Again, this is out there. Days. There is a ‘domino’ effect because of how our electrical grid is designed. It has safeguards which actually take it down – in segments – automatically in order to keep from frying things… but the components of what those automatic systems are supposed to protect are not protected from EMP and/or huge static loads to ground. I’m not an EE so not sure what that means. So when the system trys to protect itself – it can cascade – quickly. But if certain parts of the system get damaged – again this is out there – then it can take years to replace them. Problem is, the companies who make this stuff don’t have enough raw materials on hand – right now – to make them all. Some of them don’t even have back up power sources…. they are ‘commerical’ suppliers ! Think about it. Really think about it.
Hmm, good investment. What raw materials do they need?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 737050
Raw materials – i don’t know but huge transformers and filter units take a lot of steel, wire and parts I would assume.
And with that – my weekend starts. I’ll catch up later.
By Anonymous Coward User ID: 853973 United States 3/7/2010 10:54 PM
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/8/2010 10:07 AM
Good morning.
I’ve been tied up this morning but I have had the chance to glance through some of the posts from the weekend. There are really a lot of good questions but most of them I either can’t answer or haven’t heard any real info about. If I have the time later today I’ll try to go back through and pick out the ones I might be able to give some helpful info about.
I saw many regarding my working for NASA. I don’t work for NASA.
I saw several about how I could do this from a secure government network – we aren’t government. We have two internal secure systems, one is through ARIBA for our contract and data management. We use this to transfer ITAR related data between our vendors. I don’t but those involved with that here use it. Boeing employees can venture into the net anywhere they want – except anything remotely deemed as porn – at all – period. Unfortunately, there is some stuff on this site which is darn close.
I realize that most of you want more from me and I knew it would be that way. I can’t offer more right now. I can, however, promise you this. WHEN the time comes that I decide it’s time to head North – I WILL find a way to jump on here – find this thread – and let you know that I am headed out. It will take a lot for me to do this – Boeing has no patience for folks who don’t show up for work without prior notice.
I’m tied up for sure till about 1300 today. Will try to jump back on then.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/8/2010 10:15 AM
Good morning.
//… WHEN the time comes that I decide it’s time to head North – I WILL find a way to jump on here – find this thread – and let you know that I am headed out. …
. .
How far north are you going? … Or is that just a bug-out expression?
Quoting: Aquarius 7
I had said early on that we have a small bit of property between Houston and Dallas.. North for real in this case.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/8/2010 12:11 PM
OP, what is the timeframe from a warning to the actual event. 30 minutes, 3 days…?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 865798
I’m on a short break. 20-40 hours. You guys need to go look at this site while I’m out. There is a LOT going on with this tool and it can ’see’ what Spitzer cannot see anymore:
[link to www.sofia.usra.edu]
There wasn’t much said about this project – and I can’t find any reference to it on this site at all. You need to know that this is out there NOW and looking at ‘things’.
See ya after 1300
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/8/2010 1:49 PM
All I can say is that the next fucking time don’t use your fucking same User ID talking random bullshit in other threads exposing yourself as a fraud.
IDIOT!
Link or you stink.
So I have to do a job that you can actually do? Let’s see, OP User ID threads:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Seems like a good time for a massage
When the tension is up – sensual massage is the way to go. Anyone agree? Houston? Girl?
Beeleever
User ID: 888341
2/25/2010 4:32 PM
Another one:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
MODS – It’s up to you. Small piece of puzzle ???
Is there anyone else here who is involved in a government, military, or municipal project who is being pressed to make a “can’t miss” 2011 delivery deadline? I am involved with a Navy project (see www.ddg1000.com). As in all ship projects, this one was running way behind. But last year, the project was pulled from the prime contractor and given to a different shipyard. Many reasons are plausible. But we are under TREMENDOUS pressure to make delivery deadlines at all cost so that these two ships can be delivered by end of 2011.
Just curious if we could see from other responses a pattern???
Beeleever
User ID: 888341
3/4/2010 1:55 PM
Oh come on, give me a fucking break, how many jobs do you have? And before trying to warn us about this “event” you decide to creat a thread talking about massages? DO YOU THINK WE’RE STUPIDS?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 909605
I’m going to answer this just once. These are my posts. I am human and not every waking minute do I spend worrying about doom. Some of the posts on here are humorous to say the least. There are days when I wish to heck I could leave and go get a massage. What can I say. i was just trying to bring a little lighthearted interaction on that thread.
Like I said – I work for Boeing and NASA is not our only customer. We are making some portions of a weapons targeting system for DDG-1000 and we ARE under the pressure I mentioned in the other post asking if there were any others under that same stress.
Like you guys – I’m using what I know and trying to sift through some of what I see on other boards – including this one now – to put pieces together for myself.
Nuf said about this comment.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/8/2010 2:17 PM
Thank Op, for stepping out with this information.
I realize you wouldn’t be able to conform this theory, but my thoughts,
The Earth is passing thru a field, that is charging it like a capacitor and one of the things worried about is , at what point will this discharge to a grid killing event or will bombardment cause overloads of the grid? Also, the Earth and Sun are already feeling the gravitational effects from an unseen body, causing weather anomalies, earthquakes, etc? Thanks again for the updates.
You’re thoughts?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 889631
I haven’t been in on any meeting about the first thing you mention. Everything – everything – I have heard is all in regard to solar activity – it’s increase – and possible effects. With regard to the second item – Spitzer located a couple hundred ‘cold’ drawfs before it ran out of helium… it’s now in what’s called the ‘warm’ part of the mission.
Those objects are moving and have enough mass to affect the Sun – when close enough. We have a lot of birds out there already watching the Sun and even though GOES-P is billed as another NOAA weather mapping satellite, it is also set up to begin to closely monitor ‘weather’ on the Sun.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/8/2010 2:57 PM
Ok i am ready to Debunk this guy. I have been working for Nasa for over 5 years and have a uncle that helped me get the job that has been working there for over 25 years. We are not scientist or anyone with any knowledge of what really goes on in there. But i do know this. Anyone ANYONE who actually does work in Nasa facilities or even visits anywhere inside the compound needs a couple things upon entering. First i would like to know which gate the OP enters the Nasa facility, and what color his actual pass to get into the Nasa compound and move around in is. I would also like to know What statue is in the cafeteria.
IDIOT… and how do we know YOU are telling the truth?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 865798
This kind of questioning is what I think makes it nearly impossible for anyone to get on the net and try to be of any help. And I understand. But by the time I – or anyone – would feel like dumping our job to answer this questioning since it is OBVIOUSLY a secruity breach to describe entrance badges – it would be time to just say whatever one knows and get out of dodge… if there was time.
Here is all I intend to say. The few times I have to go on site at JSC, I go through the main gate, go to bodg 110 and check in – show my HSPD-12 and get my visitor badge. Most of our work if from the main conf facility in bldg 30 but i have also monitored some employee meetings in Teague.
nuf said
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/8/2010 3:02 PM
OP. When you are in on these conference calls, would you say the people are nervous or sounding urgent.
Excellent question.
Quoting: Doofus2012 910164
Recently – urgent. But remember these are scientists and in peer level meetings, especially when cross national, they tend to be more reserved – not always but they try to be.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/8/2010 3:13 PM
Maybe if I give you some of this info. We operate conference facilities all over the US and I am specifically involved with the group which handles military and paramilitary traffic. In our conf facilities, we set up the customers with 15″ TPS-6000’s which are managed by Creston PR02 dual bus control systems and C2ENET-2 dual port Enet controllers. Those are the management side. The conference attendees are using Tandenberg 6000 video conferencing codecs.
Has Crestron made it any easier to interface with those Tandenburgs? Installing those in w*mart corp was a pain in the neck!
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 788397
Crestron is a total pain !!!!!!!!! Their interface is just terrible.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/8/2010 3:15 PM
Thanks OP. Would you say they are high ranking NASA officials?
Did you notice any other agencies involved?
Quoting: Hickory
Department heads yes but not the ‘officials’ you would see on TV. Those meetings are above me and closed to all but a few. We set up the link and monitor remotely but only for data transfer.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/8/2010 3:36 PM
OP, are you going to be able to answer more questions?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 865798
For now, I think I have said all I can say and have done what I set out to do which is point you in a direction which is really the thing to monitor closely space related. Lord knows there is plenty more which bears watching in the international world. I’m looking for bits and pieces and a heads up about Israel and Iran as hard as I am trying to keep a close watch on my own info right now.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/8/2010 3:37 PM
OP has it anything to do with the ripples on the sun or the filaments that keep popping up?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 903741
YES !
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/8/2010 4:18 PM
Perhaps this is why OP states that what they are viewing they are not sure if it is ‘real’ or not. They are viewing a black dwarf (cold dwarf) that messes up all their theories.
And the cold dwarf is interacting with the sun. I bet if we look at the filaments and where they started on the sun, we could triangulate to the vicinity in space where the cold dwarf’ is. It is pulling the magnetics out from the sun, creating the filaments. That might be why we are seeing so many filaments at this time also… also, the biggest filament ever seen by a gigantic magnitude.
Am I close OP?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 865798
Yes. There doesn’t have to be anything that close to cause the internal reactions needed to form a filament. That’s what I hear. But something is…. like has been said on here many times.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/8/2010 4:21 PM
OP – Thank you for providing some info. for the less informed majority.
Are you a religious man at all? Saw that you were also interested in the Israel/Iran situation. That situation, combined with the sun’s developments all sounds VERY Book of Revelations to me (Stars falling from sky – take a guess what those really are and how they fall..nuff’ said). Do you concur at all with these happenings or at least the LACK of coincidence with since it’s all mentioned already in the Bible?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 909154
I am not ashamed to say that I am a devout Christian. But I also must say that I do not understand the book of Revelations and I have never been totally sure that we would understand it until some future time…. maybe that is now.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/10/2010 9:58 AM
Is this (link) what NASA can/can’t see to know its effects?
You did refer to colliding objects, objects you didn’t know if they could see or not, could not know mass or composition.
You also referred to p2010 A2 LINEAR!
“Thing moving through space can hit each other. When they do, it’s hard to know what will happen because those spin offs can hit other ‘things’ we may not see yet – or – may think we see but aren’t sure of the mass or composition”.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 888341
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Quoting: Munchaab
Good morning,
There are two things posted in many threads here on GLP – including this one – which are valid. One is, the Sun is actually approaching it’s solar maximum as has been described and warned about publicly. The time frame may be sooner. The other is the knowledge that something is affecting – gravitationally – the makeup of our solar system. About this I know all want to know more and I picked this thread to reply on for a reason.
I will keep watching the thread and other posts on GLP and try to let you know when one is ‘very close’. Very close is all I can confirm.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/10/2010 10:16 AM
Thanks for checking back in, OP. Will scan this thread for any future comments from you. Will you do all your future posting here or should we look for new threads?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 436543
I will come back here.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/10/2010 10:18 AM
However, if you name happens to be Michio Kaku’Nuff said.
I repeat:
How about this scenario put forth by astrophysicists?
A companion star to our sun that has an elliptical orbit of approximatlely 24,000 years is nearing the solar system and will cause major problems between 2011 and 2017.
Confidence level of the astrophysicists: 99.9%
Close??
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 682255
No competent astrophysicist wrote that nonsense.
Quoting: Menow 908400
This scientist is right on track.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/10/2010 11:01 AM
I know this may sound crazy, and please don’t shoot me down if you believe/think/know/otherwise, i’m just asking the OP. This is my only post on this thread and i will not post again if I am way off the mark:
Do the SUPPOSED anomalous contrail formations, many refer to as “chemtrails” have anything to do with the scenario you are highlighting?
I am, and always will be, on the fence regarding the whole idea of “chemtrails”. But I can see them as playing a role in this scenario, IF EITHER ARE REAL (the scenario you propose and the chemtrail one).
If CTs have anything to do with the scenario being postulated on this thread, would it be a fair assumption to make that the sun is currently, and has been for some time, periodically outputting energy that is/could be of IMMEDIATE or maybe cascading danger to biology on this planet?
IF, and I know it’s a big IF, this were the case, might it be that measurement of this energy by birds near the sun are being used to calculate locations/densities of particulate shielding needed on our planet in advance of energys arrival?
I BEG people other than the OP not to respond to this post. I don’t want to see this thread descend the way I have seen happen to similar ones elsewhere. It is entirely up to the OP if he/she wants to answer it.
PEACE
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 815075
No – nothing to do with contrails at all. I have absolutely no knowledge and have never heard a single word seriously spoken about anything called a chemtrail !
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/10/2010 11:34 AM
OP,
I asked about this already some pages ago, but is there any info you could shed on the timeline?
- When was it first observed that “something’s not right”?
- Have the events developed from there in a linear fashion, or more exponentially? Do you expect things to continue to develop at the same speed?
- If you would have to throw in your best guess, when will be the worst moments, when we really need to learn to live without certain things? Withing months, years, or decades?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 176293
I can reply to your second question. When what is happening progresses, and depending on things which can be involved – of which we have no way to know for sure – this can escalate really quickly. We, and I mean everyone, won’t have much notice.
Not knowing which telecoms will be affected first – it’s hard to know how whatever notice we get will be delivered. Personally, I have decided that when I hear – through any verifiable source(s) – that a major metro area is experiencing ‘problems’ with their power – that’s my personal que. Like I said previously – the power grid in US is automatic and can cascade offline quickly.
I don’t know how else to put it. The real science behind this dictates that there won’t be much time for anyone who might wish to – to give a notice. I personally do not believe there will be any official notice of an incoming CME. What I wish would happen would be for others who could – to agree in public that this is about to be a problem.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/10/2010 1:13 PM
If this is to knockout the grid and all wiring, won’t it knock out our cars also? OP, how do you plan on getting to your safe place North of Houston if cars won’t work. Are you saying you will know right before it happens, like several hours? Also, do you have room for 4 more people?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 909523
A solar storm will not take out our cars – not the likes of one we could survive anyway. The last question is one which troubles me, mainly because I’m not even sure I have prepared the ways needed. I’ve some what I can afford and we have family and friends who hope to make it there whenever… We use this place for hurricanes too – not very fancy really. My honest prayer is that we – citizens – will be allowed to keep and use property and supplies as our own in such a crisis.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/10/2010 2:09 PM
I agree, if I had this info, it would be hard to look around at all the people everyday, especially the children and not feel pain. I think i would have to do everything in my power to warn everyone if i thought that could save some. Even if it meant my own life. I have 3 kids and a grandchild and i would do what ever it took to save them.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 909523
Yes – but the thing is, you would want to warn them about something which they could do something about – and at a time when it made sense. Our country has a noose aroung most families… School is required by law.
Kids don’t show up, people start asking questions and even looking. I’ve wondered, what most could do to prepare, that I have been able to do only because I happeped to buy a small piece of land a long time ago which is away from a large city. Honestly, most people can’t do that… they live in rental homes and apartments….
So how can they prepare really? My hope is to sound an alarm to folks I know as soon as I can, when I can, and hope it is soon enough to make a difference. ANYONE reading the threads on this and other boards should be taking responsibility for themselves and their families and NOT waiting for someone else to make that call for them.
It’s not convenient for me either to be spending time and money preparing for something which has no solid timeframe – like most want in days and weeks. I would rather have a boat or a cycle and spend free time elsewhere. That’s not smart to be doing right now !!
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/10/2010 2:25 PM
OK, how bout this:
How bout this for a hypothesis:
OP, had also made references to comet clusters. He makes reference to a cold dwarf star.
If the dwarf star is orbiting on our eliptical, it will fly through (or close to) the Oort Cloud.
As it does, it pulls comet clusters in its wake due to its gravity well. It would probably sling Oort Cloud debris all over the place. A massive abount of them. Since it has done this before (countless orbits?) it has already trapped debris from its previous passes through the Oort Cloud. So, we get more ‘fireballs’ in the sky, strange BOOMS!
Since the cold dwarf is dark and emits no light, scientists only notice it because of the disturbance in the Oort Cloud, which was fairly recent. So, what does the government do? They restrict EVERYONE from their data of space objects. The entire event of the cold dwarf’s entry into our solar neighborhood is invisible, because neither the comets nor the cold dwarf emit light or heat.
That is why SOFIA is important. It needs to get into the air and use its infrared sensors to ’see’ what is out there. It is the best tool for viewing objects that don’t emit light frequency waves.
We are now beginning to feel the effects of its gravity, as shown in the strange phenom of the sun recently. On top of that, think about the magnetic fields of the sun and the cold dwarf interacting. What a fucking mess. And the cold dwarf is arriving in the timeframe where the sun is currently heading towards solar max, when the sun’s own magnetic poles shift, further complicating the problem!
I bet NASA is thinking ‘what a coincidence!’, when all along it is just part of the cycles.
On top of that, we have this ‘ribbon’ of magnetics that we are entering, as seen at the edge of the heliosphere.
And they KNOW that brains interact electromagnetically with our environment. WTF is going to happen when all this converges?!
And the fact that ‘ribbon’ is stationary, and the cold dwarf is orbiting our sun, the ancients could piece it together!
And I bet you that there is a TON of ‘unknown’ objects out there that are coming in with the cold dwarf and the ‘ribbon’, stuff that NASA cannot explain at all. Like Comet/Asteroid P/2012 A2. They can’t even classify it as an asteroid or a comet!
OP, is this about the jist of it?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 865798
I’ll answer as my opinion – yes.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/10/2010 2:37 PM
OP, what are your thoughts on this:
There is some pretty accurate channeled information out there, as well as people on this site, that have had experiences that are spot on to the information you are providing us with.
How much of that does NASA know? There has got to be something to it. Do they speak ‘in the halls’ about consciousness changes?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 865798
I have not looked into ‘channeling’ honestly and am content with what I have access to from my work. I haven’t heard any conversations at all about what you mention here.
By: Anonymous Coward User ID: 888341 United States 3/10/2010 4:28 PM
thanks OP for your effort and courage!!!!
Q: is there a time line? this year / next year? anything?
OP has said a few times that there is no time frame for sure. He/she has hinted it will be before or during the solar maximum. This is shceduled for 2012 (hillarious, but true). However, most reports that the OP has pointed us to reminds us that the Solar Maximum may be early, 2010-2011.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8398
I wanted to pick this one up and comment then I’m off again… leaving early today.
As soon as I pick up enough info, to feel that the timeline above is valid, I plan to quit and head out. If I’m wrong, I loose my job – I was looking for one when I found this one. If I’m right, I made the right choice. I need a few more pieces of what I feel is “my” puzzle before I make that leap but I am thinking, from where I am with it all right now, I will be doing that before the end of this year.
–Simon’s Log Checked thread til page 64
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